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		<title>By: debcha</title>
		<link>http://zedequalszee.com/2009/10/13/music-tech-and-culture-roundup-5/#comment-1972</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott, I think the interesting element of Bragg&#039;s case is that he is one of relatively few people to point out that draconian restrictions don&#039;t just disadvantage individuals, but that giving unacceptably high control of the internet to corporations (and I don&#039;t know if that your example - Google going to Congress when things get bad - is exactly reassuring me).

Tim, I&#039;m not thrilled about Web Sheriff either. I thought that the interesting element was that they don&#039;t go straight to the big stick, and instead go with the social niceties first (an approach which seems sorely lacking in these days of kajillion dollar lawsuits).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I think the interesting element of Bragg&#8217;s case is that he is one of relatively few people to point out that draconian restrictions don&#8217;t just disadvantage individuals, but that giving unacceptably high control of the internet to corporations (and I don&#8217;t know if that your example &#8211; Google going to Congress when things get bad &#8211; is exactly reassuring me).</p>
<p>Tim, I&#8217;m not thrilled about Web Sheriff either. I thought that the interesting element was that they don&#8217;t go straight to the big stick, and instead go with the social niceties first (an approach which seems sorely lacking in these days of kajillion dollar lawsuits).</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[on the other hand, i just read the comments on the guardian article and this comment by the ubiquitous mr. sheriff is actually pretty interesting:

&quot;as it happens, we are currently in the process of compiling archives of bootleg recordings of various artists / clients and shall then be making them officially available off these artists&#039; web-sites for the benefit of their fans worldwide … .. this way, the artists / bands shall have some say over how their live work is presented on-line / to-the-world and, equally, they can ensure the best in terms of the quality of the material that is uploaded (especially if they have recordings taken straight off the desk).&quot;

isn&#039;t it nice to think that we might not be playing a zero-sum game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the other hand, i just read the comments on the guardian article and this comment by the ubiquitous mr. sheriff is actually pretty interesting:</p>
<p>&#8220;as it happens, we are currently in the process of compiling archives of bootleg recordings of various artists / clients and shall then be making them officially available off these artists&#8217; web-sites for the benefit of their fans worldwide … .. this way, the artists / bands shall have some say over how their live work is presented on-line / to-the-world and, equally, they can ensure the best in terms of the quality of the material that is uploaded (especially if they have recordings taken straight off the desk).&#8221;</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t it nice to think that we might not be playing a zero-sum game?</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Guardian makes a small but inexcusable error in its piece that I feel priggishly compelled to note here -- &quot;I was a bit surprised to find out that there is already a policy in place (and has been for years) which requires ISPs around the world to cut off customers who repeatedly infringe copyright – the Acceptable Use Policy.&quot; Everyone here already knows (but I&#039;m going to say it anyway) that AUP&#039;s *permit* ISP&#039;s to take action against their customers; they of course do not actually *compel* ISP&#039;s to take action. Big difference!

Anyway. The Web Sheriff guy always strikes a slightly off-key note with me, if possibly just because his nom de guerre is so inane. Stopping leaks is great - musicians gotta eat - but I don&#039;t love the artist&#039;s (or, more to the point?, their label&#039;s) representatives looking over my shoulder to decide whether they approve of how I&#039;m enjoying their work, either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Guardian makes a small but inexcusable error in its piece that I feel priggishly compelled to note here &#8212; &#8220;I was a bit surprised to find out that there is already a policy in place (and has been for years) which requires ISPs around the world to cut off customers who repeatedly infringe copyright – the Acceptable Use Policy.&#8221; Everyone here already knows (but I&#8217;m going to say it anyway) that AUP&#8217;s *permit* ISP&#8217;s to take action against their customers; they of course do not actually *compel* ISP&#8217;s to take action. Big difference!</p>
<p>Anyway. The Web Sheriff guy always strikes a slightly off-key note with me, if possibly just because his nom de guerre is so inane. Stopping leaks is great &#8211; musicians gotta eat &#8211; but I don&#8217;t love the artist&#8217;s (or, more to the point?, their label&#8217;s) representatives looking over my shoulder to decide whether they approve of how I&#8217;m enjoying their work, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://zedequalszee.com/2009/10/13/music-tech-and-culture-roundup-5/#comment-1963</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just completed the survey and looks like it could be an interesting piece. Hopefully we might be able to read it once she has finished.

I am also a student and will soon be starting research on peoples views and behaviour with regards to marketing and music piracy for my dissertation. This idea of offering the survey link to music blogs is one that i think could be very useful in gaining a good insight into the real music enthusiasts and one i will definate try to utilise when i come to do mine.

With regards to filesharing i completely agree that it would be impossible to stop. Digital content, by design, is reproducable without the need for any physical or original source. As such once one copy exists there is always the possibility of another exact copy being made. As a marketing student i am interested more in how products/services/content can compete with the free alternative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just completed the survey and looks like it could be an interesting piece. Hopefully we might be able to read it once she has finished.</p>
<p>I am also a student and will soon be starting research on peoples views and behaviour with regards to marketing and music piracy for my dissertation. This idea of offering the survey link to music blogs is one that i think could be very useful in gaining a good insight into the real music enthusiasts and one i will definate try to utilise when i come to do mine.</p>
<p>With regards to filesharing i completely agree that it would be impossible to stop. Digital content, by design, is reproducable without the need for any physical or original source. As such once one copy exists there is always the possibility of another exact copy being made. As a marketing student i am interested more in how products/services/content can compete with the free alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Super-nerd Flood love available via Jonathan Coulton&#039;s full album live cover last Saturday in Chicago, starting at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4FDNfAd-c

I agree with Bragg&#039;s conclusions about the practical solution, although I don&#039;t think the argument you note is a particularly compelling one. It presumes a slippery slope that I&#039;m not convinced of. Industry would, as he suggests, keep asking for tighter and tighter restrictions, but that doesn&#039;t mean that they&#039;d get them. In general, as more draconian measures get put in place, the affected constituencies get larger and more powerful. Consider, for example, the differential impact of Cory Doctorow railing against attacks on net neutrality versus Google sending executives to testify before Congress on the issue. Admittedly, this approach often still results in suboptimal outcomes, which is why I think Bragg&#039;s answer is definitely the better one, but scare tactics aren&#039;t the way to make his case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super-nerd Flood love available via Jonathan Coulton&#8217;s full album live cover last Saturday in Chicago, starting at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4FDNfAd-c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4FDNfAd-c</a></p>
<p>I agree with Bragg&#8217;s conclusions about the practical solution, although I don&#8217;t think the argument you note is a particularly compelling one. It presumes a slippery slope that I&#8217;m not convinced of. Industry would, as he suggests, keep asking for tighter and tighter restrictions, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;d get them. In general, as more draconian measures get put in place, the affected constituencies get larger and more powerful. Consider, for example, the differential impact of Cory Doctorow railing against attacks on net neutrality versus Google sending executives to testify before Congress on the issue. Admittedly, this approach often still results in suboptimal outcomes, which is why I think Bragg&#8217;s answer is definitely the better one, but scare tactics aren&#8217;t the way to make his case.</p>
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